CineSportsTalk vs MLB Network: Top 10 Second Basemen

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Every year MLB Network runs down their list of “Top 10 Right Now” at each position. They do it a few different ways. First, they use their machine called the “Shredder.” The Shredder takes all of the human factor out of it and goes based solely on numbers alone. They rank each position in that manner and use both offensive numbers as well as defensive numbers. Then the host of the show, Brian Kenny, gets his chance to count them down as does Bill James and then finally the special guest host for that particular countdown gets their say.

We will start with the Shredder, Brian Kenny, Bill James and the special guest host and then move on to Steve, Scott and the Sportz Nutt from CineSportsTalk! Here we go and let us know what you think!

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Steve’s List

10. Jurickson Profar

Profa

I had the number 10 spot up in the air for a while. I decided to go with Profar because of his tremendous upside and the lineup/ballpark that he plays in. That being said, after his first full year in the majors as the Rangers 2nd basemen, we might be looking at him a little higher on the list next season or not on the list at all.

9. Daniel Murphy

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It’s hard to ignore someone as consistent as Daniel Murphy. The man can hit and his defense has continue to improve and because of that improvement at 2nd base, he has been able to stay healthier. You know someone is a run producer when they drive in nearly 80 runs on just 13 homeruns.

8. Aaron Hill

Hill

After an off year in 2011, Hill was able to regain his power stroke in 2012 as a member of the Diamondbacks. He had a fluke injury to his left hand last season that cost him a ton of time. When healthy, Hill will put up all-star caliber numbers. His 162 game average includes 28 homeruns and 88 rbi.

7. Chase Utley

Utley

I struggled with the exact position to place Chase Utley. The numbers that he has put up in the past have been outstanding (2005-2009) and he has always killed my Mets. That being said, he has the hip of an 87 year old and could break down at any time. Last year he played in 131 and he is 35 years old so you shouldn’t expect much more from the once elite 2nd baseman.

6. Ben Zobrist

Zobrist

I have Ben Zobrist right in the middle area of the top 10 of the position I expect him to play for the most part in 2014. He can certainly do it all and play at shortstop or in the outfield. Who knows…maybe one of these days he will thrown on the catching gear. Since 2009, Zobrist has played no less than 151 and you can count on his typical solid production again this year. The Rays are lucky to have him.

5. Brandon Phillips

Phillips

Mr. Reliable or Mr. Dependable – either one fits DatDudeBP. Since 2006 he has played at least 141 games. His 162 game average over the course of his career is .271/20/85. Mr. Choo is gone from the top of the Reds lineup, so you might see his RBI production dip from his career high of 103 from 2013, but Phillips is still a top 5 guy at the position in my book.

4. Jason Kipnis

Kipnis

I think that 2014 is the year that Kipnis breaks out. He raised his average nearly 30 points between 2012 and 2013. It will be his third year in the league and his confidence should be at an all-time high. I look for him to break through into the top 3 in 2015.

3. Ian Kinsler

Kinsler

Did the Rangers do this man dirty or what? That discussion is for another time and place. He moves from the friendly confines of Arlington to Detroit this year. He remains in a very good lineup although I am concerned about his drop-off in homeruns and stolen bases. His homerun totals from the past 2 seasons actually equal his output from 2011. I’m curious to see how well he adjusts. He will need to have a very good season to hold off Kipnis next year.

2. Dustin Pedroia

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The definition of a tough guy. The man is a run producing and doubles machine. He also played all of last year with a torn ligament in his thumb. That is the only thing that kept him from double digit homeruns and even more run production for the World Series Champs.

1. Robinson Cano

Cano

Cano is one of the more professional hitters in all of baseball and has one of the sweetest swings in the game as well. That swing is one of the reasons I don’t see his production dipping too much besides his homeruns as he moves from New York to Seattle. As a Met fan, I am glad to see him out of pinstripes, but there is no doubt in my mind that he is the best 2nd baseman in the game.

Scott’s List

10. Jurickson Profar

Profa

This is my one reach in any category. I know some people labeled Profar’s major league debut somewhat disappointing but you have to remember he was shuffled between 3 or 4 positions on a nightly basis and could never develop any consistency.  Sort of like what happened to Mike Trout before he broke out. Now that Ian Kinsler is out of Texas, Profar is manning 2B and with that I think we are going to see his uber-talent come to fruition.

9. Aaron Hill

Hill

Aaron Hill has had somewhat of a career revival in Arizona since coming from Toronto. 2013 was plagued with injuries. His 2009 and 2012 were fantastic in a somewhat shallow position. If Hill can stay healthy, he should produce a top 5 season at second base.

8. Chase Utley

Utley

Chase Utley had a surprisingly strong season in 2013 despite the constant rumors about his career being all but done due to his arthritic knees. Let’s hope he builds off last year and can stay healthy.

7. Brandon Phillips

Phillips

Nothing flashy. I know Brandon Phillips is getting up there in age, but if you want reliability out of your second baseman, Phillips is your man. Sure his production could see a slight dip with the defection of Shin-Soo-Choo to Texas, but look at this man’s numbers before the arrival of Choo. Solid.

6. Ben Zobrist

Zobrist

This do it all work horse isn’t flashy but you can pencil him in night in and night out. The everyday utility man leaves everything on the field. What more can you ask? Yes, you also read this on our SS preview.  Zorrilla can play anywhere and I would be remiss to leave him off the 2B top ten list.

5. Matt Carpenter

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Another multi-positional player that could land a higher spot on this list, I just need to see another solid year of production in order to catapult Carpenter into the elite. Yes, you read that on the 3B preview. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Carpenter get some action at 2B this season with unproven rookie Kolten Wong set to open the season as starter.

4. Jason Kipnis

Kipnis

Kipnis could one day find himself atop this list. This young rising star just needs to cut down on his strikeouts. One of the few power hitting second basemen in the game.

3. Ian Kinsler

Kinsler

Ian Kinsler has been consistent when healthy. I don’t think being traded to the Detroit Tigers drops his stock any. Yes, hitting in Texas is always a luxury, but hitting around Miguel Cabrera and Victor Martinez isn’t so bad either.

2. Dustin Pedroia

DP

Always finding himself behind perennial top 1B Robinson Cano, I was tempted to move Pedroia to the top spot. Pedroia hitting in hitter friendly Fenway Park and a much better line up was almost enough. In the end the former AL MVP came a tad short in my rankings. Can we put 1A?

1. Robinson Cano

Cano

I was this close to putting Dustin Pedroia at the top spot but I decided against it because I’m not a homer like Steve. Cano’s numbers are sure to take a hit now that he is playing in the cavernous confines of Safeco Field, but he should still produce his annual over 20 HR’s and 100 RBIs.

The Sportz Nutt’s List

10. Jurickson Profar

Profa

A highly touted rookie, he comes with a long list of things he should be doing. He struggled last season, but I like to go off the map for my #10, so here’s hoping he fulfills his resume.

9. Daniel Murphy

Murphy

I’ve always been a fan, ever since I snagged him off  waivers a few years ago, and loved his batting average. Last season he put some power into his game. I hope this year he soars to the Top 10.

8. Chase Utley

Utley

It’s amazing the numbers that Chase puts up, despite being injured year after year. Since 2009, he hasn’t played more than 131 games, yet he’s constantly in double digit homeruns and steals (minus last season). Age might hit him this season, but until he proves me wrong, he’s my #8.

7. Brandon Phillips

Phillips

I think this is the year we see a drop off in Phillips’ production, but even still, it pits him higher up than others at 2B.

6. Ben Zobrist

Zobrist

Not as fast as he used to be, he still can help in many facets of the game. Power speed and durability are all quality features of Mr. Utility.

5. Jose Altuve

Altuve

Here’s a case of if he were playing on a better team, he would be so much better. However, he plays for the Astros, so his RBI and run totals will be down. He’s still an unbelievable talent and a marvel to watch.

4. Ian Kinsler

Kinsler

Here is where the talent drops off. A few years ago, that wouldn’t be the case with Kinsler, but age, a new home and two straight years of disappointment have led me to believe he won’t ever be the 30/30 player he once was. If I draft him in any leagues, I hope I’m wrong.

3. Dustin Pedroia

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Despite tearing a ligament in his thumb, Pedroia still managed to play 160 games last season. Impressive? Yes. He is the third best second baseman, but still in the higher tier of talent at the position.

2. Jason Kipnis

Kipnis

He truly came into his own last season, as he went through an entire season without many major pitfalls or slow stretches. He has 20/20 capabilities, and I think this is the year he breaks through those.

1. Robinson Cano

Cano

I don’t care about the new ballpark, the fact of the matter is that great ball players can play anywhere. His power numbers might drop a bit, but regardless, he is the best in baseball, hands down.